Bulova 1949 His Excellency

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Model ID rating explained.
2.01
Manufacture Year: 
1949
Movement Symbol: 
48 (A8)
Movement Model: 
7AK
Movement Jewels: 
21
Case Serial No.: 
9424465
Case shape: 
Rectangle
Crystal Details: 
Rectangular/Flat. Bezel Dimensions 21.3x17.3
Gender: 
Men's
Additional Information: 

Overall Length: 37.7mm

Width: 21.2mm

Inside Lugs: 15.8mm

Solid 14KYG

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NOVA
Posted February 3, 2012 - 2:04pm

DarHin, that's the wrong result in both respects, IMO.  Please read the entire thread to see what was concluded.  Looks like you only read up to the first posted advert.

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DarHin
Posted February 3, 2012 - 2:22pm

If the case # indicates '49 and the movement is '48 why can't this be a model year of '49?

 

NOVA
Posted February 3, 2012 - 2:38pm

It is possible that it is, BUT there is no proven link between the case number and the manufacture date in a watch as late as yours.  The relationship appears to end in 1946.  So, the case number is not a reliable way to date a watch as late as yours.  With a movement date of 1948, there is no reason to choose 1949, given what we know/believe at this time.

Also, please understand that, for an advert to support a model ID, the ad does not need to be from the same year as the watch.  We know that many--perhaps not all--models were produced over a number of years, but that doesn't mean that they were advertised every one of those years, and it is highly unlikely that we currently have all the ads that existed. There could be ads showing your watch in 1945 or 1950--who knows?  All we know is what we have in the database right now.  So, it is perfectly fine to rely on an ad that is dated one, two, three, even more years before or after your watch, depending on the surrounding circumstances.  But you have to look at the totalilty of the circumstances, including whether other models from other years looked like yours but had a different name--in which case the year becomes more important.  This is where experience comes in to play.  You've got to really dig into the ads and get to know the models. . . and the trends.  It takes time.

mybulova_admin
Posted February 4, 2012 - 1:15am

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IMO case date code trumps movement date code.

If this case has 49 stamped on it then it's a 1949 watch.

Earlier movement might suggest Bulova using up old movement stock, later movement may suggest a replaced movement. Either way the identification should be based on the case style first and foremost and then additional factors like movement type and jewel count.

NOVA
Posted February 4, 2012 - 12:26am

 Darhin - Please change the name of your watch to "His Excellency" per the discussion above and the date to 1948 per the movement date code. Thanks.

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DarHin
Posted February 4, 2012 - 1:24am

Done deal. Thanks.

 

mybulova_admin
Posted February 4, 2012 - 1:08am

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I have just purchased the orginal ad showing the watch in question. Will add to the site as soon as it arrives.

JP
Posted February 4, 2012 - 8:56pm

Panel Member

I have an excellency with the word excellency on it under the word Bulova in black script and the movemment date is 48. No date on the case back but first number of serial is 8 so I am assumimg it is a 1948 watch. I found nothing in the ads with the word excellency on the dial. Has any one seen it any where??

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DarHin
Posted April 17, 2012 - 6:28pm

I've decided to change the year of manufacture to '49 as indicated, I believe, by the case serial #.

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Posted April 17, 2012 - 6:35pm

I would concur - 1949.