Bulova 1921 Lady Maxim

11/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.55
Manufacture Year: 
1922
Movement Model: 
A.A.I.
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
6153
Case Serial No.: 
2321
Case shape: 
Tonneau
Case Manufacturer: 
American Standard
Gender: 
Ladies
Additional Information: 

 Recently acquired this one... a real Mystery! 1924 is a guess. Movement is 8 1/2 lignes, case is 18K non-Bulova. I found a post on NAWCC site about a similar Lady Maxim (no photo). The case was 14K gold filled, but had the same manufacturer's stamp. Is this a BULOVA, or was it made for another company by BULOVA??

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J. Bulova Company. Makers of the Famous Lady Maxim and Rubaiyat Watches.

 

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NOVA
Posted February 5, 2012 - 11:54am

OT - The comment about sticking our heads in the sand is rude, totally uncalled for, and wholly unjustified.  As asked by Admin, we are offering our opinions about an important topic.  If you are going to have input in that discussion, particularly by offering documentation that you believe proves something, then you need to be prepared to accept counter arguments.

Some of us are discussing relevant facts rather than opinion, speculation, and irrelevant data.  You should work on understanding the difference. 

OldTicker
Posted February 5, 2012 - 1:04pm

Lisa,

Did you read what I said???

It seems you all have your minds made up on this subject...so what good would it do to scan all these pages and send them to Admin?? if the opinion is already in stone?

I am trying to offer some information on this discussion and for the database, but there are 14 pages that I found and it can't be uploaded on a form post.

I have offered opinions like everyone else here, they are just that, opinions & speculation like everyone else's...and I have no problem accepting counter arguments as long as they are not based on faith.

If you think what is on these 14 pages is not revelant to this discussion and site with out seeing it, so be it, lets just use the Bulova site history timeline...no, wait, I think Will proved that unreliable on another thread too...we better just use the faith we have that we are right.

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." — Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac, 1758.

"Faith is the belief in something you know does not exist."--Mark Twain
 

simpletreasures
Posted February 5, 2012 - 11:56am

Greg, we're not the one's with our heads in the sand, in fact I had used a different analogy. What part of pulling it out of the DB as "Lady Maxim" and listing it as "other" or "Unknown" is so freaking hard to understand?? Do you honestly think any one visiting this site is going to read 10 pages of opinions and theories, or are they just going to say "Oh, OK I have a Bulova Lady Maxim" let's get it listed on EBay and charge a lot of money for it.

FYI, your copy of the trademark/patent info is a nice tool, I've had it on my harddrive for 3 years. And Marks correct, there is no "Lady Maxim" listed.

simpletreasures
Posted February 5, 2012 - 10:49am

Admin. It's your site, plain and simple. It's also your reputation.

We can either be know a a "Premier Watch Site" where research and facts are required to document and validate a watch..... OR......

We will be known as those " People who don't know their a*$ from a whole in the ground, are very opinionated, snotty, rude, and act like children", sorry but being the bearer of bad news, we're pretty much there!

Admin. In you last post you referenced "Theory's" and expressed your hopes for "someday" well I agree!

My theory is that with facts and documentation we as a group who love these old watches, will be able to factually recreate a history that was carelessly destroyed.

We as members have seriously come to that "Fork in the road", so which path do we take? Do we take the path of knowledge, supported by hard work and research and facts?

Or do we take the proverbial "Garden path" where we hold hands, skipping, and singing "FaLaLa" and people point our direction, smile and say, "Aw look at those SPECIAL people, aren't they cute"?

Like King, I too have a dream..... I dream every night when I lay down to sleep, that when I wake in the morning, the magical Bulova Fairy will have visited overnight, touched all my frankenbullys with her magic wand and turned them into something special...............................................................................

Nope, still little gold turds, damn.

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timerestoration
Posted February 5, 2012 - 3:53pm

 My 2 cents....if it's worth that much. I am a Watchmaker, not a historian. I posted this watch awhile back thinking it was a BULOVA. If the CONCENSUS of the "Panel" is that it has no place here, I am completely fine with it. I don't believe these issues should be decided by any INDIVIDUAL. That is why we have a "PANEL".... isn't it?

NOVA
Posted February 5, 2012 - 3:57pm

Yes, it is.  And that's why Admin opened the issue up for discussion. Unfortunately, not much input has been provided by "the panel".  In fact, I believe only four of us have chimed in, not including Admin.

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timerestoration
Posted February 5, 2012 - 5:17pm

 More to the point.... I was asked by an individual panel member to remove this watch. I don't know if there is a code of conduct, list of protocol, chain of command, or any such thing associated with being a panel member....and it isn't even any of my business as a NON-panel member. Just food for thought.

OldTicker
Posted February 5, 2012 - 3:59pm

There is a lot more to the explainations and cutting and pasting is not going to help much...The 14 pages have been sent to Admin. in actual size, so he can add them to the info database if he so desires.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted February 5, 2012 - 5:36pm

I will cast My vote because this could go on forever and, as Jeff has indicaticated, He has no qualm over the outcome.

 

Based on what I have observed I do not beleive this Watch is a Bulova and has no place in the Bulova database.

mybulova_admin
Posted February 5, 2012 - 9:52pm

Club 5000Panel Member

 I think the belief that both the Lady Maxim and Hudson Maxim are simply Frankenbullies is incorrect as one only has to google both to see there are many examples of these 2 watches.

I'm hoping the remainder of the panel will chime into this discussion with their thoughts before I action the popular opinion.